What's the Story of Janie's Story?

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"This isn't just janie's story, right? That's why we're listening to it. This is an echo of generations of stories from at least hundreds of thousands of women," she says. "The fact that you were screaming quietly not to wake up the neighbors, i mean, that just shows how deeply it's ingrained in us."

Several years after Janey was sexually assaulted by her former boyfriend, Mathew, she told some of her closest friends, and her mother, what Mathew had done. Janey was so troubled by her loved ones’ responses that she went back to them years later to record conversations about it all. In this episode: Janey’s story, and philosopher Kate Manne, who coined the term “himpathy” in her 2017 book, “Down Girl: The Logic of Misogyny.” With co-hosts John Biewen and Celeste Headlee. Part of our summer mini-season of rebroadcasts.

To hear more of Janey Williams’ story and the conversations she had with friends, check out her podcast, "This Happened", available on most podcast apps and at thishappenedpodcast.com.