You and I did a symposium with Greg Clark about his book farewell to alms, which is wonderful since then he's had other books. What do you think of his approach to economic growth after all these years now that you've thought about it written your own book? Well, his approach is the huge kind of approach, there's the largest scale. I'm looking at the 20th century, which is a considerably smaller scale thing. And so what I'm most interested in is how we get our 2% per year productivity and real income growth after 1870.

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