I think it was probably the most profound two years of my life and I generally don't go to college. The Shiva program is essentially a call it like 12 to 15 hour a day you can think of it as sort of college or like religious college if you will. It showed me a kind of how I want to live my life and what should I want with my life after, he says. "A lot of people's error were phenomenal"

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