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Against Nature | Raj Patel & Tina Ngata

The Verso Podcast

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The Great Man Theory and the Vile Man Theory of History

In Seven Cheap Things, Jason Morley sort of plot the life in particular of Christopher Columbus. He's the bad guy who ties everything together in the book because he's involved in all of the things that we think are characteristic of modern capitalism and also in crisis. And so, yeah, this idea of exploration and occupation is very interesting. You already understand his land is being occupied by other people. And when you look at other sort of indigenous cosmologies, the idea of occupation doesn't make sense. It's a belonging to the land rather than the land belongs to you That is a much more intelligent and intelligible way of understanding for a lot of indigenous communities that Columbus was ultimately responsible

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