This is the second need in the hull of your sailboat. And how does it relate to the issue of introverts versus extroverts, right? I mean, introverts are having their day in the sun now. We have Susan Kane's book, you know, let us love introverts again because it's not that they don't like people, it's just they need their own space. Is that, is that related to this need for connection somehow one way or the other? There's a relatedness aspect to it.

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