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#2 - Tobi Lütke & Kaz Nejatian on Shopify's Country-Sized Economy

The Network State Podcast

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The Founder, but the McDonald's?

Shopify is an underwriting decision. It's us essentially taking the coupon on a very, very long bet. The ultimate level of like tech policy is a new state where you can determine that policy from scratch. Toby: I wanted to move the center of opinion to within like our community and actually also the policymaker community in realizing we can go from just starting new companies and communities to new cities and maybe even new countries.

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