Introduction

Tatiana Serifen and Nicholas Grozdev of Carnegie Council join The Truth of the Matter to talk about Russia, Ukraine. Tatiana: This is a 20th century conventional war taking place in a 21st century environment when we were told only a few years ago that such a type of war in Europe was unthinkable. Andrew Schwartz: We can't even grasp what it is like not to have electricity or water or heat.