We avoided the excesses of say Forbes.com for those who remember Forbes, which eventually became unusable. So like the day, the days of like, I blast her and stuff like that. And then we had a, and we had a interstitial like when you come to the front page and you got a full screen interstitial that you could sell for a lot of money in early days. But it really was, you know, and all the arguments about time spent versus sort of allocation of dollars across radio, TV, print, et cetera are true.

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