Is Mary a Stand in for Us?

Talking about Mary is difficult because she, she has very deep mysteries. One whose name is Salome can't believe the virgin birth,. And so in the text, if you read it, she checks, she tries to check if she's a virgin and she hand burns off like she hand gets very dramatic as an image. I think that image is really one of the most powerful images that we have. It's hard to put these things in words because it feels like you're reducing this great complex misgree to, you know, it goes beyond words.

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