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Rob Joyce, NSA Director of Cybersecurity

The Lawfare Podcast

CHAPTER

The Evolution of the NSA's Culture of Secrecy

The NSA chief says the agency is still on a journey to change its culture of secrecy. The use of classified information in statecraft has been "breathtaking," he says. But there are still people who don't understand how much we enable through our knowledge, Snowden's leaks show.

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