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Frauds And Visionaries - Bethany McLean

The Joe Walker Podcast

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The Dark Shade of Belief

Do you think we're almost more forgiving of the honest crooks than the people who self-de-save? Like if you think about historic figures like Charles Ponzi or John Laws, there's almost this like adventurous kind of rap-scallion element to their characters. I don't know how to see him through a dark lens when I think he believed he really convinced himself that what he was doing was in shareholders best interests and runs best interests.

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