The more energy you give the system, the more it will consume. If we get more efficient in biomas, if we add more energy to the system, that's a low but that's low carbon variety. Ultimately, that has to be coupled with a new governance or a new cultural aspiration other than what we currently have. Soi guess you're also familiar with cardashe scale on oncivilizations that' that sort ofcourse, ste ofn on, a grand scheme of things comes into mind. We are still a stage one civilization. We are probably at the brink of becoming a stage too,. because we also now slightly being forced to become a stage too. What is stage

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