i think the lessons to her were this weird, unique perspective that they kind of forced themselves to be poor for a while. My dad pulled it all out to pay for medical school. And my mom joke sometimes is a, as soon as he got paying off all his law degree loans, he started his medical loans. So and so i all wrapped that up by just saying, ike, can't be home, can't make any money, but you need the support ystem at home.

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