Two Sides of Fi is a podcast that follows two lifelong friends as they seek financial independence and to retire early. Eric: We've gone like 13 episodes then without, I mean, we've acknowledged that our spouses exist,. But it feels kind of funny that we've talked so much about something that's so important to both of us without actually bringing them on. Jason: It'd be nice to have them kind of dip in and out of this because what was it like when Eric brought the idea of fire to you? Because there's certainly, it's a non-traditional path. There's certainly risk in there and there's a spectrum of risk depending upon how you manage it.