How to Judge a Success or Not Success of the Story

Success is you're having a conversation and the CEO says to you, okay, great talk to my team and prove you can do that. And he's going to be the number one sponsor of the gel. That's the best situation because if the CEO makes the decision himself or herself or herself, it's not great. I think we at 360 learning, we have that culture of collaboration, like things are not going to be right the first time. It's going to take some time. Honestly, also you have a very solid framework. Thank you. Because I'm in the space of learning, it's a framework, but it's also education. Like you show us that first meeting