You expose Simon LeVive and you make it, I hope, impossible for normal people to ever be victims of him again but still you end up seeing him as a social media star. So that's also, you know, a paradox and a complex dynamic between social media and the scam. The good forces are winning through here. You'll always have those two of you either Anna or Simon Levive as sort of anti-heroes and that's the paradox.

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