When you start getting founders into the low single digit, you kow what they start thinking. And i seen it happen, and it's a real bummer. So you got to top off those founders. I'll just say to the latest age founders, the latest age investors, listen, is founder his at i don't know? In one case it was like, i don't know, eleven per cent. He's got eleven per cent of the company. The company had to raise money. It was a pretty hard situation, and he doesn't have a co founder. But i want to give this founder five points over five years. People were like, oh my lord. You...