It's amazing to be the extent to which this very simple kind of everyday thing that Aristotle put at the center of everything twenty five hundred years ago is something we still understand. Partly it's because you know we know a lot more physics now and there's sort of work to be done mapping the physics onto the folk wisdom or the manifest image but there were people like Bertrand Russell who said the best thing to do is just get rid of the notion of cause and effect. And so then that began along philosophical project of trying to recover from these time symmetric underlying laws together with auxiliary facts about the world how it is that we can re-import causal notions into physics.

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