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Most of our engagements are notthere's not bake office or competitive. A lot of customers now te they make decisions that are, you alin with their values a lot more. If i'm going to do like diy cobernetes, if i moing to roll my own cobernas distribution verses, use one of the venders supplied and off the shelf tool set. So how marags your question? Kanda has two levels. There's kind of two forks in that road,. Because there is a pretty clear decision. I'm goin to make that decision pretty early. Those use cases where i need to create an incredibly customized cubernets environment, or incredibly customized
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