From a 0.9 GPA in rural Utah to the faculty of Harvard, Todd Rose's life is a testament to the idea that the "standard path" is a myth. In this return appearance on Infinite Loops, Todd opens up about the gritty, unvarnished reality of his origin story—a journey that includes ten minimum wage jobs, a stint administering enemas for a living, and the life-changing intervention of a department secretary named Marilyn Diamond.
We dive deep into the "Dark Horse" mindset and why the pursuit of fulfillment, rather than the pursuit of excellence, is actually the most reliable driver of success. We also bond over our mutual disdain for Frederick Taylor, explore the devastating impact of "average-based" thinking on human potential, and discuss why dignity is the bedrock of a free society—illustrated by a heartbreaking personal encounter with a jar of chunky peanut butter.
If you've ever felt like a square peg in a round hole, or if you're looking for a roadmap to navigate the coming cultural shifts in the age of AI, this conversation is essential listening.
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Show Notes:
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The 0.9 GPA and the "Correct Answer Machine"
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Ten minimum wage jobs and the advice to "get longer gloves"
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Marilyn Diamond: The improbable mentor who saved Todd's education
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The "No Average Brain" discovery in neuroscience
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Why we both despise Frederick Taylor and Scientific Management
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Dark Horses: Ignoring the destination to find the path
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Degrees of Freedom: How Todd hacked the GRE
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The "Chunky Peanut Butter" story and the importance of dignity
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Resentment, trust, and the future of AI
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The "Rainy Day Club" and how paradigms actually shift
Books Mentioned:
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Collective Illusions; Todd Rose
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The End of Average; Todd Rose
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Dark Horse; Todd Rose
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Improbable Mentors; Mike Perry
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The Principles of Scientific Management; Frederick Taylor
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The Structure of Scientific Revolutions; Thomas Kuhn
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The Wealth of Nations; Adam Smith
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Man's Search for Meaning; Viktor Frankl
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Dignity; Chris Arnade
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Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy; Joseph Schumpeter
