Ex-Refugees

John and hank's new book, an absolutely remarkable thing, comes out september 20. John: In our daily lives, we generally end up in places where we feel very comfortable. Hank: Having those experiences can be at least a piece of information for you to help understand when other people are in situations like that. john: I do hope that once you got into the game, uh, my experience, anyway, is that once you're sitting in the stadium, i know it was stressful walking in.