The idea that we will somehow be poorer in a degrowth scenario is precisely the fallacy, right? As long as you can imagine an economy that has public transportation instead of SCVs, then you're imagining a degrowth economy. What actually matters is what we are producing and whether people have access to those things. This is going to require more than the environmental movements alone. The only way to do that is to build alliances with the labor movements and with working class formations. That's the recipe, I think. And that's what we'll need to pursue in the coming years.

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