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The Defender of Liberal Democracy
The defender of liberal democracy is a kind of Richard Gordy type academic pragmatist who sort of saying let's not get bogged down the weeds and metaphysics that's just you know that leads to religious world. I don't necessarily disagree that maybe liberaldemocracy is a more experienced system than an ideological one but there is an ideology. The people that are like best for me are two Viennese uh Carl Popper and Friedrich Hayek who in very different ways have flaws in their thinking.