The Importance of Interaction in the Evidence Based Community

I think it has increased resonance coming from someone such as yourself where I don't have a science babe or like being seen as one of the figures, one of the pillars in the evidence based community to hear it. There are clear pathways that have been established in this community over the last decade. So many different things that some of those skills that not that they're more complex, but they require feedback and they require actually interact with the human. And so it's a thing that one must actually participate in and actively work on That is counting to 10 people always forget that aspect.