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Mark Meadows's 'I Can't Hear You'
Dobbs: I was struck by almost a bit of the ambiguity around it, because some stuff she says is obviously very bad for him. My basic sense was that mark meadows knew this's what trump wants, and he's not willing to cross trump. He just is staring in his phone. And so he's, in that sense, kind of, you know, one more trump coward, yes, basically.