I think any tope of forecasting is in many ways a guess, and i think that's why this company is difficult. I don't agree with the point about putting more capital in and therefore reduces the r o e. More capital stays in the business, that's correct. But that isn't necessarily correct that the r oe goes down. If you look tis business over the last 20 years, and you semble for all that period of time, after they've had to put capital on the balance al as long as your spread cheek goes back, why is your returnon equity not gone down? It's gone down sometimes because an interest margins are lower. Because the whole entity

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