Russ, i want to pick up on this theme of the crazy and the impact of of just the sense of nonsense and craziness that seems to have affected so many of our institutional contects. You've spoken other contexts that actually, and ready just said this now also, that there's actually a design among certain practitioners of that t they're using to advance their aims. Say a little bit more about this idea of crazy as strategy,. In particular, a strategy for church growth that oure witnessing? Well, i think at the i think there's a difference between what happens at the sort of larger, denominational, institutional level and what happens atthe local level.

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