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Guy Mason, senior pastor of the church group in question, City on a Hill. Andrew Thorburn personally is the chair of your board. He would be chairman of your board unless he shared exactly the same views that the church does. The Christian view is one of life and it's one of love. That's what we stand for. And I'm sure that Andrew would agree with that. You need to ask him his views. But... No, no, he hasn't given his views. It was more like a public assassination.
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