In this episode of the podcast, Brooke is joined by Roger Martin, an experienced strategy advisor, former Dean of the Rotman School of Management at the University of Toronto, and co-author of Creating Great Choices. Together, the two explore business models and how we can make great choices when faced with incongruity. Supported with real-world examples, the discussion addresses how we should move forward when we don’t get the outcomes we hoped for.

Some specific topics include:

Our disinclination toward compromise and how to get around making “either/or” decisions

Bob Young and his company Red Hat, who took two unappealing choices and built a superior model amidst the free software movement

The ladder of inference that leads us to focus on monoliths

How the Toronto International Film Festival overcame the power of monoliths and became the most important film festival in the world

The three steps for integrative thinking, an alternative to accepting polarized situations

How Roger transformed the Rotman School of Management into one of the highest-ranked business schools in research

How people can work toward integrative thinking through their everyday choices