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I don't care to land. Right. But I do really care to explore at some point. I just felt like essentially the way everyone's practicing spirituality is as if the purpose of being here is a fact finding mission like those self hiding things. The purpose is to nail them down, get them right. And when you die, you're going to be given a scan Tron. And if you get the right answers, you get to go into the good place. Right. Right. And I think when I would try to pray or meditate or connect with whatever the goodness of the universe is, I just never felt that that thing was whatever gives me a scan Tron.

Welcome back to the transmission, my friends. So lovely to be with you. One of the things that absolutely kills me about modern philosophically dip curiosity facing discourses is how. Mirthless they are how absolutely flavorless and soulless they tend to be. And sometimes that's by necessity, right? Sometimes you just need to do that. Rote memorization. Just grind your way through a bunch of facts. But it need not be that way when we're exploring the wondrous and the meaningful, even if we're doing it rigorously hell, even if it's the opposite and we're talking about the tragic, there's often still an opportunity to tickle the mystery in there. And that in general is the overarching spirit of this mind meld with Andy J. Pizza. Is that his real name? Yes, he is the heir to the pizza fortune. Of course, I just that is not Andy's real name, but he is the best selling author. Of invisible things. He is an illustrator. He's also got a lovely podcast called creative pep talk and student and enthusiast of all things Jungian. He is a fellow wielder of the sort of mythopoetic lens that we tend to gravitate toward in this media vessel. There is a considerable girth of Mirth wrapping around the whole enterprise that is this episode. So much good stuff in this one. Many Jungian musings, the relationship between the collective unconscious and creativity, active imagination and illustration, the labyrinth that is modern meaning making in general, many ancient Greek platonic hermetic leaning riffs and oodles. More all the links you will need for sir Andy J. Pizza are in the description. Same for third eyedrops on the note of this media vessel. Do now presently tickle that algorithm with a like, a sub, a comment, a share. It is all immensely important for us. And did you know that third eyedrops is a long running audio only podcast as well? That is where we got our start. So by virtue of that, we've got over 300 audio only episodes that you will only be able to hear on podcast platforms. So do subscribe on Apple Pods, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts. And if you want to go a layer deeper initiate yourself into our patreon, wonder lodge at patreon.com forward slash third eyedrops where we do monthly zoom hangs, a book club, a patron only discord server. You can get rewards like stickers, pins, shirts and more at patreon.com forward slash third eyedrops. And with that, my fellow sentient sacks of Stardust let's meld minds with my new wonder brother and yours, Andy J. Pizza. Yeah, it was really interested when I saw the sort of combination of playfulness. Did I put a T in there

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