How Did You Get Out?

Thomas Chatterton Williams, nonresident AEI fellow and writer at The Atlantic, joins the Remnant for the first time to discuss race and ethnicity in America. Thomas, who describes himself as “ex-black,” believes we need to “unlearn race” to fulfill the promise of the Declaration of Independence. But what would that entail in practice, and how can we move away from racial categories while preserving a diverse culture? Moreover, why is it beneficial to spend time residing in a foreign country? What are “American values?” And will France soon annex the United States?

Show Notes:

- Thomas’ page at AEI

- Thomas’ latest book, Self-Portrait in Black and White

- Thomas: “My Family’s Life Inside and Outside America’s Racial Categories”

- Thomas: “Saving Classics From Identity Politics”

- Albert Murray’s The Omni-Americans

- The Remnant with John McWhorter

- Emmanuel Macron rejects wokeism

- Jonah: “What if we Ran Our Elections Like France?”

- James Baldwin: “The Discovery of What it Means to be an American”

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