In both cases, whether or not you're focused on interoceptive bias or extra-oceptive bias, you are going against. Or I should say you're pushing back against your default mode network. That is, you're going to reduce or shift the activity of that default mode network far more and in a far more beneficial way if you actively try and suppress your bias toward being more interoceptive orextra-oceptive. Now, I think that's immensely beneficial both for the immediate changes that you experience, what others have called a state change. And it also can lead to, as we referred to earlier, more neuroplasticity, more changes in the brain circuits that under

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