This episode we're going to talk about her infamous wagon of fat episode. Kimberley, my weird feelings are that i think every assumes that everyone loves opera but i have not experienced that is necessarily being true in black communities. Andi, i use black communities plural, because there are people who love her and they love her capitalism and her antipreneurship. But i know that there are also people who are very critical of obra as a person and what she has or hasn't done for the black community.