jo fier and mat wolf: How do we get our listener or viewer to the next tep, to potentially work with you and join your master mind. stephan spencer: We've got hustle and flow chart dot com, or hustle and Flow Chart dot t v. And then if anybody is interested in going down the pod casting rabbit hole, we have a coarse called pod hacker which is how to build, grow, scale and build a community around your podcast.

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