Hello and welcome. My name is Tom and this is the SCOP podcast episode four and I have a very special guest for you on episode four. We're going to pick it up right where we left off. Anyway, let's see. What was it? Yes, two weeks ago, two weeks ago, my friend Mike Alvarez was here who also composed that lovely theme song, which is very, very catchy. And he's back today because today we want to do a, it was supposed to be a very light look at the different waves of SCOP, but it ended up being what seems to be kind of a deeper dive. And what I mean by that is after Mike and I were talking a couple of weeks ago on episode number two, we decided like, hey, it would be really cool to cover the different waves of SCOP. And we agreed that that would be a cool thing to do. And we said, hey, let's do some research and then meet back and we'll, we'll record an episode. And so then Mike did all of the research and now he's here today and I push this button and that is what I did. So hello again, Mike. Hey, everyone.