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12. Derren Brown — Magic, Happiness, and Skepticism
The Michael Shermer Show
Are You Making People Feel Better?
"I'm trying to make you believe in this because what I find interesting is the fact we tell ourselves stories. So that's my toolkit," says magician Paul Keyves. "If it's done badly, if it's just done badly, then I don't think it has any inherent value", he adds. 'Most of the audience are probably just a bit disappointed with the show'
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