Rubin: Sometimes autopilot is the best pilot because then it's keeping one like the anxious part of your mind busy so it can be free to open up. I always get really, really good ideas when I'm just doing my stupid lunches or whatever. And I have to stop and like write them down in my inbox and then hop back up. You know, example is this poet Louise Vogan who didn't write another poem for seven years. Rubin: Even if it doesn't get written, you have to enjoy the life that you've created anyways. That 20% of the time that you do get those like beautiful glimpses of pleasure, you get to experience them as the

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