Kusht: My problem is some of the companies, most of my banks, I don't want to invest in banks. So we do try and give that a bit of a bit of perspective on that. And generally when I'm researching, it's usually European or American. It's not quite as on, but I don't look at Chinese stocks or Brazilian stocks either. Kusht: If you haven't listened, I would recommend checking out both the, I won't say interview with their discussion with both Mike, the dividend guy and also Barb as well.

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