But Kamala Harris, as a hero of the civil rights movement, has exclusive rights to her own story, right? You don't get to tell her story.

Right, and you can write your book. Every politician writes a book before they run for a higher office. Look at Ron DeSantis. He published a book telling his whole story. But we don't just take the biography and run with it as the next American icon. They have to earn that. And

certainly... Well, we get to ask questions, don't we?

That's what we like to do, I think.

Yeah. Actually

uncover interesting things about people and paint a bigger portrait than just the one that's on their campaign ad, their campaign slogan. So I do find that very rewarding. I think every journalist should find that rewarding. Like, who is the real Kamala Harris? What does she believe in? Turns out not much. If there's any issue she's never changed her position on, or one issue she actually cares about and can speak passionately about, it's abortion. I think that's her number one. Why do you think she's so,

is this someone who never had children? I'm not attacking her. I feel sorry for her. Children are a source of joy, really the only enduring source of joy. So speaking of joy, I'm definitely not attacking her for that at all. I feel really bad for her. But it's just interesting that someone who never had kids would be so committed to abortion. Like, what do you think that is? Yeah,

I'm not sure. It's obviously something that she has dealt with. She's obviously had people in her life who have dealt with this. Has she had an abortion? Has anyone asked her? She's never publicly said anything about it.

Someone asked her. She's constantly talking about other people's abortions and abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion. Why is it out of bounds to say, hey, have you had an abortion?

Right, because if you had, you would certainly expect that you would champion that moment since it's the expression of human freedom. If I'm

running around talking about how we need subsidized appendectomies, then I think it's fair to say, have you ever had an appendectomy? Right. If there's nothing to be ashamed of, then why does nobody ask her? I don't get that. I don't, you know, I'm kind of sick of playing along with all this stuff, I must say. All these weird taboos that only serve one political party, where there's some things you're supposed to talk about, but only in a certain way. Other things you're never allowed to talk about. Certain people have a right to tell their own story. Other people who have no right to talk at all. Like, I'm just, who makes these rules? And why are we playing along with them?

Right. Has any pro-choice woman who is in political office shared her experience of having an abortion?

Yeah, I mean, I really, just for the record, don't want to hear about other people's abortions or abortion at all. It's killing. It's super depressing. But if it is

the act of ultimate human freedom and you campaign on this. Well, they're the ones who are talking about

it constantly. So

maybe you would consider that this would be.

But if Brett Baer had said to her the other night, you know, Madam Vice President, have you ever, you talk about abortion law, have you ever had one? I mean, I think he would have been fired from his job for saying that. And he certainly would become instantly a villain. And you sort of wonder, like, why? If there's nothing wrong with abortion, if you're supposed to shout your abortion, or like Tim Walz is very obviously gay. I look at him, I'm like, well, you're gay. And I'm sure I'll be attacked for saying that. Maybe he's not gay, but he certainly seems gay.

Right, and you immediately say, where's your evidence?

I don't have any evidence. I'm just saying the guy looks super, super gay to me. But they're the ones always running on being like, it's great to be gay. Okay, if it's great to be gay, then why is it an attack on him for me to say that? And why would it be out of bounds to be like, hey, Tim Walls, you seem super gay. Are you gay? Have you ever slept with dudes? If you asked that question, you'd be fired from your job. You're

just asking that now. It's very controversial, right? But why would it be controversial? Because you don't have any

evidence. If there's nothing wrong with it, then why is it so offensive to ask that question? Like, this doesn't make any sense. I think ultimately Democrats feel like these issues are very private, which is why they

campaign so strongly.

They're so private? Really? Yeah. You've got a LGBTQ plus parade in San Francisco, New York, Seattle, every big city in the country, people are having sex in the street. So it's not private. Right. They're telling my kids constantly that it's a good thing. So there's nothing private or forbidden or taboo about it now. Right. Just to be clear, those are

their rules. And then you have Tim Walsh. It's like, keep the hell out of my bedroom. We are the party of privacy.

But if there's nothing wrong with being gay, which is certainly a position. In fact, it's morally superior to being heterosexual. Obviously, they say that. In effect, if the State Department's pushing it on every country around the world, then why would it be somehow crazy or out of bounds or taboo or offensive for me to say to Tim Walz, you seem gay. It's not an attack. Right. Are you gay? But you know, as well as I do that if I had an employer, which I don't, I would immediately be fired for saying, right. So like, what is that? That doesn't make any sense. And why are we playing along with it? That's my, that's my point. Yeah. I'm not going to ask that question. And by the way, I wouldn't either, because don't really want to know about Tim Walls' sex life. I don't want to know about anyone's sex life. I want to stop talking about our sex lives, actually, immediately. Right. And I want the State Department to stop forcing other people in other countries to talk about their sex lives. I just want to declare a truce on race and sex and abortion. I don't want to hear about your abortion at all. I don't want you to talk about abortion. Shut up about abortion, about your sex life, about your race. That's the world that I want to live in. But they're not allowing me to live in that world. So as long as they're not allowing me to live in that world, why am I playing along with rules that are rigged against me? Right. These are fair questions, right? So why don't you ask Tim? Why don't you ask Tim Walls that question? About abortion? No, no. Just say, hey, Tim Walls, you seem gay. Not attacking you, but I've seen the video of you doing jazz hands. Yeah. Are you gay? Have you ever had sex with a man? I don't know if

I would. I don't know if I would have enough evidence to make that

question. No, no, no. It just seems that way. kind of my impression. Are you gay? But that would go badly for you, wouldn't it?

Right. I would never ask that question. Not all of us have the freedom to ask that question. Or the same interest

in that question. I don't have any interest in it. He's the one who's constantly, he's the one who ran a gay-straight alliance where he's talking to children about their sex lives. So right there, that's a criminal offense in my book. You don't get to talk to other people's kids about their sex lives, period, freak. Right. But he's bragging about it. Okay. Why am I barking at you? Charlie don't mean to bark at you. I don't know. Just trying to be rational for a second. Yeah, it makes sense,

you know, when you look at what our media has become, and when you wonder, when you look at the questions that they ask when they get the privilege, you know, interviewing a presidential candidate is now a privilege bestowed on you, and you have to demonstrate that you're worthy on a number of issues. The first person that got an interview with Kamala Harris was the woman from MSNBC who publicly said she didn't need to do interviews, and then suddenly she gets an interview. So that's what our media

has

become,

right? So you're filling me in on so much that I've missed. Who at MSNBC said that Kamala Harris didn't need to do interviews?

Stephanie Ruhle.

Stephanie

Ruhle? She was on Bill Maher and said Kamala Harris doesn't need to do interviews because it's so obvious that Donald Trump is the worst and that she's the best. I mean, I'm paraphrasing.

Stephanie Ruhle, the perky business reporter? From MSNBC? Yeah, she was a business reporter, the last day I checked. I think so, yeah.

I mean, she was the first one to ask. She was the first one to get a major, well, I guess Dana Bash got the first one, right, with Tim Walls and Kamala Harris. But Stephanie Ruhle got the first solo sit-down with Kamala Harris. I think that's true. And, yeah, she publicly said on Bill Maher that why does she even need to do media when it's very obvious that she's the best candidate compared to Trump.

Wow. That's crazy. Right. She's just so great we don't need to talk to her. That's her position as journalists.

Right. That's the...

And she's the one who got the first interview right i

think it's because i think donald trump said something nasty about her so that obviously about

stephanie rule right

which is why you instantly get elevated i

don't know stephanie rule we did not overlap i once worked there um she's got on camera but i i haven't seen her on tv in a long time because I don't have a TV. Right. You're free. Well, I am kind of free, but I also miss stuff, so I'm grateful that you're filling me in. That's amazing that she said that. Yeah. So I just want to boil it down, and these are just my perceptions, and you can obviously disagree, but I don't think you're likely to get a Kamala Harris interview.

Hope Springs eternal. No, that's very true. She has, it's been reported that she has an enemies list of reporters because she's very thin skinned when it comes to coverage. She hates anything poorly written. And I think one of the biggest examples of that was when she was very angry with the Vogue cover that came out after she won the vice presidency. She was very dis with this Vogue cover of her standing there in her chucks, her sneakers. And she was very upset by that. It was one of the first controversies of her vice

presidency. So Vogue was too tough on her?

Vogue ran a very racially insensitive, ignorant cover. And she was very displeased by that.

Was it a candid? She didn't know she was posing for a Vogue photo shoot?

No, she was posing. She just didn't know that would be the cover. She got to choose the outfits and the background, but that was supposed to be inside the magazine, but not the cover. But it was racist to put her on the cover. Oh, she was very upset about it. People found it very demeaning. Are you serious? Yeah. It was one of the biggest controversies. Before she even took office, this was one of the biggest controversies of her career. And even the

narcissism of rich people in this country is just, it really

doesn't have limits. Even the Biden team, communications team was like, can we tone it down a little bit? We don't want this to be the first major controversy of our ministry. We haven't even taken office yet. What was racially insensitive about it? I'm not sure. I think portraying her in a casual manner was something she did not appreciate. I

thought she was a joyful warrior a

joyful casual warrior so

you just can't with someone like that

right but the point is that she has an enemies list of reporters who don't appreciate her rise to power and any time that they stray from the official Kamala Harris narrative then she's not going to do an interview with you which is why you have so many reporters being very cautious, very careful. And she certainly earned that reputation throughout her whole presidential campaign. I mean, reporters and editors were very familiar with getting angry responses from the way they covered Kamala Harris as a presidential candidate. I

honestly feel like this is like some kind of weird right-wing parody meant to discredit people like Kamala Harris. I mean, she's like living down to every stereotype, but totally fragile, indecisive, narcissistic. This is not the female leadership we were promised at all. This is like discrediting.

Are all politicians narcissistic? Yes, pretty much. They are, for

sure. Oh, definitely. She's not the only one. I just want to be clear.

But also, you know, being thin-skinned, narcissistic, very adamant about how you're covered, and very angry with how you're treated. That's kind of— If

she called a vogue racist, then we're dealing with like... I don't

think she actually said that, but people close to her were upset of it for

that reason. That's insane. Okay. Last question. Are you going to make sure that she sees this interview? Do you think she'll watch? Is she going to send this over to her press team?

Yeah, I think I will and see if they have any response. But ultimately...

I think that's going to affect your

exes. There's a lot of people who are talking about Kamala Harris in a way that she would not approve of.

Yeah.

And up until this point, she's decided just to ignore it. But I think there's enough people talking about... You've had some great people on who including an attorney from san francisco what's her armie dylan yeah armie very very she was not a source for the book but very insightful yeah growing up in that neighborhood and experiencing connor harris for who she is i mean very insightful interview and i think there's a lot of people talking about who the real connor harris is that i think that's why ultimately she feels like she has to come out and do a media tour because she has to distract from the conversations that are actually taking place.

It's not working well. You'd think she'd feel obligated just because that's how democracy works. Voters have a right to information about you before they vote on you.

Right. But

she doesn't feel that way.

Well, and obviously as these news institutions lose the power to control the masses and cheerlead for you, even though you don't give them interviews, then what's the benefit? Yeah,

I mean, we don't have a working, it's just North Korean press agency here. So, yeah. Well, bless you and the Daily Mail and anyone else who retains a commitment to telling the truth, you know, imperfectly because we're people, but you know, trying, um, I don't think we can function as a free country without it. So I appreciate you're doing it. Well, thanks so much for having me. Charlie, thank you very much. Thanks for listening to Tucker Carlson show. If you enjoyed it, you can go to Tucker Carlson dot com to see everything that we have made the complete library. Tucker Carlson dot com.