There's a lot of skip level conversations on amongst the top leaders, isn't there? Ye, look, definitely, even in ways you wouldn't expect. At diagio ivan minezas, he takes 80 people and meets with em twice a year. The kind of different flavours were at majidol, futom elin bejani and also bradsmith ad into it. They had tho this approach where they would actually broadcast their staff meetings or open them up to, no, like, 400 leaders if they want to listen in.

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