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134. Shifting Mindsets and Systems with Jennifer Morgan

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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Cop 27 in Egypt - What Makes Me Optimistic?

Cenifer: I'm outraged by the continued effort of fossil fuel companies a, using concepts like net zero to avoid reducing emissions when we need to go to zero. And i guess i am optimistic about two things. One is in that context, which is a little speech that the secretary general gave and he announced putting forth a group of experts to provide guidance on these non state, hactor net zero commitments across the board. Ah, so they can be credible. That is that makes me optimistic. Hopefully by egypt cop 27, well have something in place that sends a signal. It's just people, people who are fighting like their lives depend on it, because they do. C

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