Sophia: I think the big thing is $10 billion in e-book 30 billion let's say top line 30 to 40 billion. We're talking about a business that did 5 billion in 21. So yeah it you know you can't just even focus on the core business of advertising which is still small relative to other social platforms. It's like that has to have jet fuel on it and you need like three new lines of business that you haven't created out of thin air. Sophia: If given the choice you wouldn't be a multi-billionaire do you actually believe that? She said there was a time where my feet didn't touch the ground but now she feels grounded

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