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Introduction
This is the jocko unravelling podcast nume 35 with darrell cooper and myself. We are going to hit a subject that is, well, it's a subject that we kind of have to talk about: mass killings. Here's something to think about as we go through this. Let me give you a quote. If i cannot join them, i will rise above them. And if i cannot rise above them, I will destroy them. This is from a book sue clebald, who was the mother of dillon Clebald, one of the ca Columbine shooters. She says she received chilling letters from alienated kids expressing what tom and eric had done for