Exactly that. And speaking from a position of total authority, like I'm speaking from the ultimate, from the, you know, in a way where I just met my wife, I think one year in and we're eight years in now or something like that. And I'm happy I didn't listen. Yeah, yeah. And so, but I remember at one point, I was so into this stuff that my wife came home one night and she had like a, she had a major breakdown basically and just saying that it doesn't feel like you love me anymore. It feels, I don't, it feels like we're in. Yeah, the lack of connection. It feels like you're completely cut off and you don't want anything to do with me. And a big part of me wanted the opposite of that, but I thought this was the answer. And so, so I really want to talk a little more about view. I'd like you to explain what it is first because we've been mentioning it and I'm not sure if people, people know what it is. And also why it's so important because it seems like a lot of the time, the goal of meditation is kind of touted as you don't want to, you want to stop conceptualizing experience all the time and live through the concepts. And it's kind of in the extreme, it's that concepts are kind of bad and the raw experience is what's good here. So yeah, how do you think about view and why is it so important?

I think about view in terms of ways of being, ways of being in the world because it actually affects how you are and who you are with other people, affects everything. And often view is non explicit, it's hidden, it's informing what you do and how you go about what you do without necessarily being known or seen. You might think that you have one particular view, but then you're behaving in a way that suggests something else, something different. So I think about it as that foundational, that fundamental, it informs everything. Right. And quite often we slip between one view or another for convenience without realizing that that's what we're doing. In fact, I would say that we're going to do that, it's pretty much a condition of living in contemporary society that we're going to be falling in between the cracks of different kinds of views and trying to relate them to each other and navigating different world views. It's not like we are born into a community that has one coherent, fully comprehensible way of understanding the world and

that's

it. Just by virtue of being born into contemporary society, we're encountering different possibilities and we're having to consciously or unconsciously work with those. So that's how I think about

view.