The vast majority of animals that humans use and their lives are done for food. Or for fur. So in that context, we do animal research because we have to. There's no other way around it. If tomorrow laws were changed and the FDA said, okay, you can do some of this early experimentation in willing human participation? That would be a very interesting option. I think there would be a lot of people that would step up and say, yes, I'm willing to participate in early stage clinical research.

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