How to Engage With the Economy With Your Art

"There does come a point at which one must decide. Am I going to engage with the economy with my art? Or am I going to figure out how to keep my heart separate from it?" he says. "You can't just keep doing the same thing. You also have to keep up in your game for yourself, you know." He adds: "I count myself lucky that I get to be included in this from time to time is small punk shows that do not give a shit about the wider world"