The Indictment of Mike Pence

The scheme got a lot further than we even understood at the time. It was more sophisticated than we understood it at the time, and that's why it didn't succeed. There were just enough people with just enough scruples left to stand in this group of conspiracies. I think sometimes we assume Trump has kind of like a public facing demeanor and message where he lies in his full of ship. No, he was like in the vice president's face as late as December 29th saying that the Justice Department was finding major fraud and infractions. Everyone had been briefed on the fact that that was a lie.