Yes, that makes sense. I make sense. It's sort of cool to compare notes about these things. Anda, i'm remembering that i, before i left maple there were three or four opportunities that i had to lead some small circles, and eno, three, four, five, six people. And i was exploring a specific style of circling that, like, i was trying to create, that i was basely trying to create the kind of circling that i wanted, that was different than what i was seeing. And, a, i was, i think there were things that i did, if i can recall correctly, but i think i started with like leading basically, like a guided meditation. And, ah, you know, sort of coming into presence with oneself in various ways. And then a, becoming aware of the other people. And i think usually i would have some kind of like guidance about, like, recalling that other people have their own experience, and like, their coming into this in their own place. And, ah, they might not be where you are, and they also, like, meanwell and want to be connected. And kind of like, e priming the pump for theory of mind, sort of lian, these people have different experiences. Aand then a, and then leading with in having everyone checked in where they were. And, ah, as i think it can be really jarring to come into a circle and be like, oh, i had no idea, but this person just had like, a really difficult phone calleri sleep much last night, or whatever it is. Ah, or they're really happy to day for whatever reason. And then, and then it would sort of shift into an organic circle. But, ah, there would be kind of a guard rail of a, something we talked a lot about in the last year that i was thereabout, like, the relationship between circling and buddhist right speech. And a, like circling could be a container to practice right speech. And so i would a sort of put up a guardrall of, like, let's be sure to have, you know, there's different qualities of right speech, but like, let's practice, in particular, kind speech. And a, not say things that are cruel or or mean. And like, a, try to focus on having kind speech. And and you would be the judge of your own speech and whether it was kind or not. But like, let's have that collective intention to constrain ourselves to a kind speech. And that seemed that those sort of different variables seemed to create something that had the like, depth vulnerability that circling usually does, with a kind of more of a psychological safety and like, shared understanding than a, at least that i was experiencing in other circles, especially like big, there's the style, like, surrendered leadership circles. And sometimes those are like huge. And i think it's really hard to have, like, it's really easy to get sort of depth and, ah, like deep insight into what it's like to be some one else in a surrendered ship circle, but it's like harder to have psychological safety, i think, and and connection and intimacy. So trying to balance those two things with that those experiments. Yes.

So did it? Did it work? Or how how did it work? And is that close to your vision for what you'd, you'd love circling to be, or is there any other parts that you'd add to your vision of perfect circle?