The Nerdst Person I've Ever Met

I've known Neil since 1993 or thereabouts when he was this quintessential nerd writing for music magazines in New York. And then Lindsay, I don't know if you know Neil. It's so funny because when we when we turned on the phone and I saw you, I was like, I recognize this person, and I can see it so clearly we were in the pool house. He decided to use himself as an example of a pickup artist after reading about them in Esquire.