At some point as a leader, I played quarterback growing up, Richard. So in that role, you have to be decisive. If you're not decisive, if you can't pull the trigger, as they'd say, and get rid of the ball, you can't play. And I think that that carries over really well to the corporate world because at some point, yes, we can have dialogue. We're going to have conversation. But at some point,. the decision has got to be made. And the leader needs to take responsibility for that and make it.

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